IPPN

Published: 23 May 2005

The General Allocation System for SEN has reached most schools by now. IPPN, conscious of the difficulties being experienced by principals, has compiled a list of the 13 questions most frequently asked by our members in order to provide you with some clarity.

We have strongly impressed on the DES how unacceptable and frustrating the lateness of this announcement is, particularly for principals who as a consequence will have to organise teacher appointments over the coming summer months.

At a meeting with DES officials on Monday 16th May, IPPN discovered that the new general allocation system was going to have profoundly negative consequences for some teachers in our schools. Where schools had resource posts for SEN appointed on a permanent basis for some years, and where the number of these posts was greater than the general allocation now provided for the school, these permanent positions would be downgraded to temporary status. This would mean that some teachers would go on the redeployment panel. This serious situation arising from the new general allocation system had not been brought to the attention of the DES previously. Given the urgency and importance of this issue IPPN made strong representations to the DES not to proceed with this policy. IPPN has since been contacted by the DES to say that a decision has now been made not to alter the status of any permanent posts this year, where evidence can be provided that the post is warranted. IPPN is pleased with this decision. Please bring this issue to the attention of your teachers and suggest that they bring the matter to the attention of their union in respect of their employment rights.

IPPN was assured by the DES that all queries in relation to the general allocation system will be responded to systematically. In order to facilitate efficient response to queries and bearing in mind the high volume of calls, the DES has asked you to address your questions to the contact person mentioned at the end of Schedule A, either by phone (as given in Schedule A) or by fax at 0906476939

Questions and Answers: General Allocation

Query 1

(a) Can hours for low incidence SEN be added to part-time posts allocated
under the general allocation system to make up permanent posts?

Answer: No. However they can be combined to make a temporary post, unless you have been directed in Schedule B to cluster with another school. All low incidence hours and posts are temporary.

(b) Can the hours for high incidence SEN be added to the allocation
based on the general allocation system to make up permanent posts or will all these hours constitute temporary posts?

Answer: All these posts would be temporary. The 320 temporary posts announced are to cover the pupils that were previously granted resource hours but are now in the high incidence category. As these children leave the system so also will these posts.

Query 2: If only my own school is mentioned on Schedule B, what am I to do about clustering?

Answer: If no other school is mentioned on Schedule B, you can search for another school with which to cluster in order to make up a full permanent post. This proposal must go in writing to the DES for approval. Alternatively you could add your own low incidence hours (temporary) to your general allocation (permanent) to make a full time temporary post in your own school. Subject to making a case with the DES you might be allowed to retain the permanent post for the coming year.

Query 3: If I have permanent resource posts for SEN appointed some years ago and the number is greater than my general allocation for SEN under the new system, what will happen to those posts? Will there be panel implications?

Answer: A decision has now been made by the DES not to alter the status of any permanent post this year where evidence can be provided that the posts are warranted. Such evidence will include a list of the pupils with SEN concerned, their SEN category (i.e. high or low incidence), the class in which they are currently and a written commitment from the principal to inform the DES when the children concerned leave the school.

Query 4: Why did all schools not receive a Schedule C?

Answer: Schedule C deals with schools which would be due to have staffing allocations reduced and who have individualised resource allocation in respect of children in high incidence SEN categories. Schools will be allowed to retain this allocation for these pupils until they leave the school. Schedule C applies to schools in this situation only.
However if schools did not receive Schedule C, and think they fit into the category described above, they should make a case in writing to the Special Education Section, DES, Athlone.

Query 5

I have a specific enquiry with regard to weighted system. I have a small special class in my school, which was sanctioned on a temporary basis about 7 yrs ago. These children are classed as having a general learning disability and would now meet 'high incidence criteria'. Under the new system our school would gain one new teacher and my query is does the new weighted system include special classes already in existence or are they outside the web?

Answer: Special classes are exempt and are not affected by the general allocation. The numbers in them are however deducted from your enrolment prior to your general allocation being calculated.

Query 6

Could you ask for clarification please, on the issue of "Disadvantage status" and the weighted allocation. We are designated disadvantage and benefit financially under 'Giving Children an Even Break' but have do not have the 1:80 allocation, nor a pupil teacher ratio of 27:1.

Answer: Only those schools in the urban 'Giving Children an Even Break' that received extra staffing are included in the 80:1. A review of the disadvantage scheme may result in some changes in the future. This could be a two edged sword if some schools are taken out of 80:1 ratio

Query 7

My specific query is in relation to developing school status. If a school qualifies for developing school status according to enrolment next September 30th, will its SET allocation for 2005/2006 school year be based on the current year's enrolment - i.e. the enrolment on 30/9/05?

Answer: The allocation that you receive in your school this week will be reviewed in two years. However in the case of developing school status the individual school will be able to make a case with the DES. It raises a serious question as the figures that the DES is basing their allocations on are the mainstream enrolments of 30th Sept. 2003. If your allocation is for two years then the figures will be four years old at that stage.

Query 8

Are Learning Support Teachers to be included in the new allocation system as SEN Teachers?

Answer: While I welcome the Ministers announcement of the 650 new Resource Teachers, I am furious that my school will loose a Resource Teacher. We will have circa 460 pupils in September. Under the old system, this would have entitled us to 3 Resource Teachers. Now we will need 495 pupils to qualify.

Answer: Learning support is part of the new general allocation.

Query 9

We are an 'even break' disadvantaged infant mixed and therefore due 1:80. I rang the DES to be told it included learning support. We already have a full time LS post and with only 155 pupil I am due to loose my administrative status, and 2 teaching posts. If the system were brought in last year we would have gained a post thus saving my admin. post and resolving the serious special needs. The system as is further disadvantages our children and rather than alleviate the situation has made our children more disadvantaged!

Answer: Your allocation this year should be identical to that received last year. The 80:1 ratio has not changed.

Query 10

As a mixed 'Breaking the Cycle' school, now "Giving Children an Even Break", are we disadvantaged, thus qualifying for 80 for appointment? This may seem like a strange question, but disadvantage has many forms, and before I get my hopes up, I need to check!

Answer: If you gained extra staff under 'Giving Children an even Break', then you qualify for 80:1, provided you are in the urban scheme.

Query 11

What qualifications will be required for the amalgamation of resource teacher and remedial teacher?

Answer: Currently a Resource Teacher does not require Irish, but a Learning Support Teacher does. Currently a Montessori qualification is appropriate for resource teaching. The qualifications required for all posts are those of a fully qualified, probated teacher. The DES feels that this gives greater flexibility to principals when assigning classes each year.

Query 12

Please enquire if the following has changed:
Do we still have to re-apply for S.E.N. resources for children transferring from a Junior School to a Senior School? Last year the children who went from Second Class in our Junior School to Third Class in the Senior School, just across the yard, had to have all their resources re-applied for. The most serious case was a child who lost her very recently sanctioned 5 hours Resource Teaching and her Full Time SNA
It took the principal of the Senior School up to March of this year to have the Resources reinstated.

Answer: The SENO will now make the decision. This could be done at any time but certainly no later than March or April of the previous year.

NOTE:

If further questions arise that are not covered in the above list please email them to Pat Goff at scoilmhuire2.ias@eircom.net. IPPN will then answer the questions in an E-scéal so that all members will access the information as quickly as possible.

Is mise le meas,

Seán Cottrell, Director
Irish Primary Principals' Network.

Related E-ScÉals

E-Scéal 93 - Further Clarifications relating to queries on General Allocation Model
E-Scéal 89 - Hours required for SEN posts
E-Scéal 84 - SEN Allocations

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Published: 20 May 2005

IPPN has a number of serious concerns about this survey:

1. This survey is yet another example of principals' workload being increased. Ironically, two different sections of the DES are currently in discussion with IPPN on how principals' workload and school administration can be reduced!
2. IPPN has consistently highlighted the need for a more scientific approach to collecting data and profiling levels of disadvantage in schools. There are numerous examples of such practice around the world including North of Ireland and New Zealand. If such an approach were implemented the information would be gathered from primary and secondary sources i.e. directly from families and from the Departments of Health (Medical Cards) and Family & Social Affairs (Social Welfare).
3. Instead, this survey requires you as principal to form opinions and make subjective judgements about socio, economic and educational conditions of the pupils in your school as well as those pupils' families. This is an unreasonable responsibility to place on principals and teachers in schools.
4. IPPN was asked to participate in an advisory group which would 'advise' the design of the questionnaire. On foot of arguments made the questionnaire was reduced from 28 to 14 questions. Because the DES is still without the facility of a National pupil database it appears this exercise cannot be carried out in a manner which will profile levels of disadvantage on a pupil/family basis - instead it will be used to paint an overall picture of disadvantage levels within your school.
5. As principal, I am sure you will agree that nothing should come in the way of enabling additional resources for your school. It is however, most unprofessional that you are expected to engage in a data collection process which is not just unscientific and open to misinterpretation but also placing an unacceptable responsibility and additional workload on principals Your sense of professional duty will of course leave you with no other option but to involve your teaching colleagues in the completion of the survey.
6. IPPN is very concerned about the wording of question 6 which appears to require factual information, given that the thrust of other questions indicate the 'opinion' of the principal. To address this point, IPPN suggests that you insert a disclaimer at the end of the survey whereupon you are requested to sign your name. A suggested disclaimer to be inserted, in handwriting if you wish, is:
   The information provided in this survey by the teachers and principal of this school is based on our collective knowledge and experience of the children in our care. The data provided has not been collected from verifiable sources, therefore we cannot be held responsible for its accuracy.The information profiling the children's levels of disadvantage is therefore based on our collective opinion rather than a statement of fact. To be signed by Principal and Chairperson.
7. In order to support you and assist with the completion of the survey, the IPPN Executive will prepare a template which you can circulate to your class teachers to assist with the collection of teacher's information on children. This will be circulated by E-scéal early next week. We are also asking the Education Research Centre for a deferral of the return date given the task in hand and the poor timing of its arrival in schools at the busiest time of the year.
8. Given the points raised by IPPN to the DES, outlined in summary above, this must be the last time you as principal will be asked to complete such a repetitive exercise.

Meanwhile please refer to the article on page 3 of Leadership+.

Is mise le meas,

Seán Cottrell, Director
Irish Primary Principals' Network.

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Published: 18 May 2005

A survey has been sent by the DES to Principals seeking information on levels of disadvantage experienced by pupils and their families. IPPN will issue an E-scéal in the coming days referring to this survey and offering specific guidance to Principals in relation to its completion. Meanwhile please refer to the article on Disadvantage on page 3 of Leadership+ which was posted to your school on Monday of this week.

On-line Summer Course for Principals & Deputies

IPPN, in conjunction with Mary Immaculate College, Limerick will offer a number of opportunities for members to partake in an on-line Professional Development Course on 'The Principal & The Law'. The course will be available to 50 participants during July 4th to 8th and a further 50 participants during August 22nd to 26th. These two courses will operated under DES regulations including 3 EPV days. A third course will be offered independently of the DES during September. This will be available to an unlimited number of participants and will not involve EPV days. All three courses are presented and facilitated by IPPN's legal adviser - Mr. David Ruddy BL.

Title: The Principal and the Law
Facilitator: Mr. David Ruddy BL
Cost: €75
Timescale:
Course 1:July 4th - 8th
Course 2:August 22nd - 28th
Course 3:September 5th - 23rd
EPV:
DES approved for three 'extra personal vacation' days for Courses 1 & 2 only
Applications:
Application Form will be sent to you on Monday 23rd. Complete and return to IPPN Support Office, Glounthaune, Co Cork with €75 fee by June 10th.
Venue:
Accessible on-line from your own computer. A CD is also provided to minimise time / cost of internet access.

Is mise le meas,
Seán Cottrell
Director

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E-scéal 87 - DES Disadvantage Survey

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Published: 13 May 2005

The purpose of this bursary competition is to actively encourage Teaching Principals to consider benefits of professional collaboration amongst smaller schools and their communities with reference to - Breacadh Ré Nua do Scoileanna Beaga - New Horizons for Smaller Schools. There are many benefits to school clustering including:

• providing enhanced educational opportunities for children
• sharing the administrative and curricular workload
• breaking the professional isolation experienced by principals and staffs
• benefiting from the professional growth opportunities
• enjoying the expertise and advice of a greater number of colleagues
• enjoying some of the benefits of larger schools

With specific regard to the educational benefits of the children and the professional opportunities for teachers, proposals are invited to outline a vision and timetabled plan for a cluster of Small Schools up to a maximum number of 5.

The bursary proposal form is accessible from the homepage of www.ippn.ie and should be returned not later than May 31st. An independent panel will adjudicate and identify the two best proposals each of which will be rewarded €3,000. This bursary amount can be used to assist with any aspect of the project.

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